Discussion:
hard news about the purported iljops tripoints
Aletheia Kallos
2013-09-20 14:27:39 UTC
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http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3984/jordan-palestinians-border
David Phillips
2013-09-20 15:29:45 UTC
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Very interesting, but I would hesitate to call hard news anything issued by
John Bolton, the Chairman of the Gatestone Institute.

David F. Phillips
San Francisco
dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org
www.radbash.com <http://www.radbash.com/>

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Subject: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints





http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3984/jordan-palestinians-border
aletheia kallos
2013-09-20 15:54:52 UTC
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haha yes & the reportage in it from amman comes as a hard blow to these long supposed tripoints too


________________________________
From: David Phillips <dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints

 

Very interesting, but I would hesitate to call hard news anything issued by John Bolton, the Chairman of the Gatestone
Institute.
 
David F. Phillips
San Francisco
dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org
http://www.radbash.com/

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news about the purported iljops tripoints
 
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3984/jordan-palestinians-border
David Phillips
2013-09-20 16:05:04 UTC
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The tripoints would be unaffected by a continued Israeli security presence
in a Sovereign Palestine. It would still be jops -- just with a lot of
Israeli soldiers.

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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints





haha yes & the reportage in it from amman comes as a hard blow to these long
supposed tripoints too

From: David Phillips <dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


Very interesting, but I would hesitate to call hard news anything issued by
John Bolton, the Chairman of the Gatestone Institute.

David F. Phillips
San Francisco
dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org
http://www.radbash.com/
From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Aletheia Kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:28 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints


http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3984/jordan-palestinians-border
aletheia kallos
2013-09-20 16:12:24 UTC
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you seem to have presupposed the borders of palestine
 
jordan seems to be saying it wont have any part of a prospective jops


________________________________
From: David Phillips <dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints


 

The tripoints would be unaffected by a continued Israeli security
presence in a Sovereign Palestine.  It would still be jops -- just with a
lot of Israeli soldiers.

________________________________
From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of aletheia
kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint]
hard news about the purported iljops tripoints
 
haha yes & the reportage in it from amman comes as
a hard blow to these long supposed tripoints too


________________________________
From: David Phillips
<dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:29
AM
Subject: RE:
[boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints

 
Very interesting, but I would hesitate to call hard
news anything issued by John Bolton, the Chairman of the Gatestone
Institute.
 
David F. Phillips
San Francisco
dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org
http://www.radbash.com/

________________________________
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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013
7:28 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints
 
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3984/jordan-palestinians-border
David Phillips
2013-09-20 16:18:05 UTC
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The Jordan has to be the eastern border of Palestine, if there is to be a
PS, because otherwise you'd have Israel annexing an indefensible thin ribbon
of land far removed from Israel, an even worse strategic situation than they
have now. Jordan will have to accept jops, just as it has had to accept
jowb, since it renounced its own claim to the WB in 1988.

_____

From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:12 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints





you seem to have presupposed the borders of palestine

jordan seems to be saying it wont have any part of a prospective jops

From: David Phillips <dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


The tripoints would be unaffected by a continued Israeli security presence
in a Sovereign Palestine. It would still be jops -- just with a lot of
Israeli soldiers.
From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


haha yes & the reportage in it from amman comes as a hard blow to these long
supposed tripoints too

From: David Phillips <dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


Very interesting, but I would hesitate to call hard news anything issued by
John Bolton, the Chairman of the Gatestone Institute.

David F. Phillips
San Francisco
dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org
http://www.radbash.com/
From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Aletheia Kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:28 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints


http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3984/jordan-palestinians-border
aletheia kallos
2013-09-20 18:16:56 UTC
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haha an indefensibly thin ribbon of land far removed from its indefensibly thin homeland already graced by a series of indefensibly thin appendages it is like the whole thing is made of shoe laces & chewing gum


________________________________
From: David Phillips <dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints


 

The Jordan has to be the eastern border of Palestine, if there is to
be a PS, because otherwise you'd have Israel annexing an indefensible thin
ribbon of land far removed from Israel, an even worse strategic situation than
they have now.  Jordan will have to accept jops, just as it has had to
accept jowb, since it renounced its own claim to the WB in
1988.

________________________________
From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of aletheia
kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:12 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint]
hard news about the purported iljops tripoints
 
you seem to have presupposed the borders of palestine
 
jordan seems to be saying it wont have any part of a
prospective jops


________________________________
From: David Phillips
<dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:05
PM
Subject: RE:
[boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints

 
The tripoints would be unaffected by a continued
Israeli security presence in a Sovereign Palestine.  It would still be jops
-- just with a lot of Israeli soldiers.

________________________________
From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:***@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013
8:55 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re:
[boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints
 
haha yes & the reportage in it from amman comes as
a hard blow to these long supposed tripoints too


________________________________
From: David Phillips
<dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:29
AM
Subject: RE:
[boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints

 
Very interesting, but I would hesitate to call hard news anything issued by John Bolton, the Chairman of the Gatestone
Institute.
 
David F. Phillips
San Francisco
dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org
http://www.radbash.com/

________________________________
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[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Aletheia
Kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:28 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [boundarypointpoint] hard
news about the purported iljops tripoints
 
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3984/jordan-palestinians-border
David Phillips
2013-09-20 18:26:55 UTC
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The chewing gum at least is kosher.

See my essays at:
http://www.radbash.com/my-walls/the-inner-wall/essays/a-solution-for-jerusal
em/
http://www.radbash.com/my-walls/the-inner-wall/essays/solution-west-bank-set
tlements/
http://www.radbash.com/my-walls/the-inner-wall/essays/sovereignty-west-bank/

_____

From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:17 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints





haha an indefensibly thin ribbon of land far removed from its indefensibly
thin homeland already graced by a series of indefensibly thin appendages it
is like the whole thing is made of shoe laces & chewing gum

From: David Phillips <dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


The Jordan has to be the eastern border of Palestine, if there is to be a
PS, because otherwise you'd have Israel annexing an indefensible thin ribbon
of land far removed from Israel, an even worse strategic situation than they
have now. Jordan will have to accept jops, just as it has had to accept
jowb, since it renounced its own claim to the WB in 1988.
From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:12 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


you seem to have presupposed the borders of palestine

jordan seems to be saying it wont have any part of a prospective jops

From: David Phillips <dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


The tripoints would be unaffected by a continued Israeli security presence
in a Sovereign Palestine. It would still be jops -- just with a lot of
Israeli soldiers.
From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


haha yes & the reportage in it from amman comes as a hard blow to these long
supposed tripoints too

From: David Phillips <dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


Very interesting, but I would hesitate to call hard news anything issued by
John Bolton, the Chairman of the Gatestone Institute.

David F. Phillips
San Francisco
dfp18-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/***@public.gmane.org
http://www.radbash.com/
From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Aletheia Kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:28 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints


http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3984/jordan-palestinians-border
aletheiak
2013-09-22 14:51:18 UTC
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thanx nice thoughtful pieces
Post by David Phillips
The chewing gum at least is kosher.
http://www.radbash.com/my-walls/the-inner-wall/essays/a-solution-for-jerusal
em/
http://www.radbash.com/my-walls/the-inner-wall/essays/solution-west-bank-set
tlements/
http://www.radbash.com/my-walls/the-inner-wall/essays/sovereignty-west-bank/
_____
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints
haha an indefensibly thin ribbon of land far removed from its indefensibly
thin homeland already graced by a series of indefensibly thin appendages it
is like the whole thing is made of shoe laces & chewing gum
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints
The Jordan has to be the eastern border of Palestine, if there is to be a
PS, because otherwise you'd have Israel annexing an indefensible thin ribbon
of land far removed from Israel, an even worse strategic situation than they
have now. Jordan will have to accept jops, just as it has had to accept
jowb, since it renounced its own claim to the WB in 1988.
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints
you seem to have presupposed the borders of palestine
jordan seems to be saying it wont have any part of a prospective jops
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints
The tripoints would be unaffected by a continued Israeli security presence
in a Sovereign Palestine. It would still be jops -- just with a lot of
Israeli soldiers.
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints
haha yes & the reportage in it from amman comes as a hard blow to these long
supposed tripoints too
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints
Very interesting, but I would hesitate to call hard news anything issued by
John Bolton, the Chairman of the Gatestone Institute.
David F. Phillips
San Francisco
http://www.radbash.com/
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3984/jordan-palestinians-border
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2013-10-20 20:54:20 UTC
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further historical context to the indefensibly thin ribbons etc
http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2013/10/20/why_jordan_relies_on_israel_to_secure_the_jordan_valley.html http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2013/10/20/why_jordan_relies_on_israel_to_secure_the_jordan_valley.html


---In ***@yahoogroups.com, <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The Jordan has to be the eastern border of Palestine, if there is to be a PS, because otherwise you'd have Israel annexing an indefensible thin ribbon of land far removed from Israel, an even worse strategic situation than they have now. Jordan will have to accept jops, just as it has had to accept jowb, since it renounced its own claim to the WB in 1988.


From: ***@yahoogroups.com [mailto:***@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:12 AM
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints



you seem to have presupposed the borders of palestine

jordan seems to be saying it wont have any part of a prospective jops



From: David Phillips <***@...>
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints

The tripoints would be unaffected by a continued Israeli security presence in a Sovereign Palestine. It would still be jops -- just with a lot of Israeli soldiers.

From: ***@yahoogroups.com [mailto:***@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints


haha yes & the reportage in it from amman comes as a hard blow to these long supposed tripoints too



From: David Phillips <***@...>
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints

Very interesting, but I would hesitate to call hard news anything issued by John Bolton, the Chairman of the Gatestone Institute.

David F. Phillips
San Francisco
***@... mailto:***@...
http://www.radbash.com/


From: ***@yahoogroups.com [mailto:***@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aletheia Kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:28 AM
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints


http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3984/jordan-palestinians-border
David Phillips
2013-10-20 22:47:57 UTC
Permalink
Quite. And "demilitarized" as applied to a Palestinian successor state
means nothing when non-state actors like Hezbollah and Hamas, backed by
states like Iran, have access to weapons like artillery and rockets, and in
the West Bank also substantial room for infiltrating fighters.

You can't force people to accept peace. It is hard enough to force them to
stop making war.

David Phillips
San Francisco

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Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 3:54 PM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
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tripoints





further historical context to the indefensibly thin ribbons etc

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2013/10/20/why_jordan_relies_on_israe
l_to_secure_the_jordan_valley.html



---In boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org,
<boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:


The Jordan has to be the eastern border of Palestine, if there is to be a
PS, because otherwise you'd have Israel annexing an indefensible thin ribbon
of land far removed from Israel, an even worse strategic situation than they
have now. Jordan will have to accept jops, just as it has had to accept
jowb, since it renounced its own claim to the WB in 1988.

From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:12 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints





you seem to have presupposed the borders of palestine

jordan seems to be saying it wont have any part of a prospective jops

From: David Phillips <***@...>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


The tripoints would be unaffected by a continued Israeli security presence
in a Sovereign Palestine. It would still be jops -- just with a lot of
Israeli soldiers.
From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


haha yes & the reportage in it from amman comes as a hard blow to these long
supposed tripoints too

From: David Phillips <***@...>
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops
tripoints


Very interesting, but I would hesitate to call hard news anything issued by
John Bolton, the Chairman of the Gatestone Institute.

David F. Phillips
San Francisco
***@...
http://www.radbash.com/
From: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
[mailto:boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Aletheia Kallos
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:28 AM
To: boundarypointpoint-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [boundarypointpoint] hard news about the purported iljops tripoints


http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3984/jordan-palestinians-border
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